Discussioni aiuto:Template

Why are only administrators allowed to edit templates? --Infernape4All._discussioni 19:43, 30 dic 2019 (CET)

Mainly for two reasons:

• Avoid to have problems in many pages caused by a single bad edit, not only vandalism but also mistakes made in good faith (it's much easier than one can imagine).
• Some overused templates should not be edited in the daytime since they can easily make the entire website go down.

However, if you want to suggest edits/improvements feel free to write in the template's talk page. -- Lucas992  •  Hai bisogno?   O vuoi stalkerarmi?  13:27, 31 dic 2019 (CET)

If we want template documentations, we would need its designated namespace, its talk namespace and a template that would transclude them, with this code:

{| style="background: #8cf; {{roundy|2.5ex}} width: 100%"
|-
{{#ifexist:Documentazione template:{{PAGENAME}}|
! colspan=2 class="big-text" {{!}} Il seguente contenuto è una documentazione di questo template.
{{!}}-
{{!}} style="background: white" class="roundy" colspan=2 | {{Documentazione template:{{PAGENAME}}}}
{{!}}-
{{!}} class="small-text" {{!}} Visita [[Documentazione template:{{PAGENAME}}]] per modificare questo testo!
{{!}} style="text-align: right" {{!}} [ <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Template:{{PAGENAME}}|action=purge}} pulire la cache]</span> ] <span class="nomobile"> [ <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Template:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} modifica]</span> ] [ <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Template:{{PAGENAME}}|action=history}} cronologia]</span> ]</span>|
! colspan=2 class="big-text error" | Errore: La documentazione di questo template non è stata ancora creata. Puoi crearlo [[Documentazione template:{{PAGENAME}}|qui]].}}
|}

Also, I'm not sure if I placed too much of the {‍{!}‍} magic word, or if it's missing in some places, but there MUST be a vertical pipe (|) character after the </span> ]</span>. A namespace index should be an even number, and it must be the following odd number for talk namespaces. Also, the {‍{documentation}‍} template should be placed always between <noinclude> tags. --Infernape4All._discussioni 21:31, 31 dic 2019 (CET)

Oh! I think the table should be written in HTML:

<table style="background: #8cf; {{roundy|2.5ex}} width: 100%">
<tr>
{{#ifexist:Documentazione template:{{PAGENAME}}|
<th colspan=2 class="big-text">Il seguente contenuto è una documentazione di questo template.</th>
</tr><tr>
<td style="background: white" class="roundy" colspan=2>{{Documentazione template:{{PAGENAME}}}}</td>
</tr><tr>
<td class="small-text">Visita [[Documentazione template:{{PAGENAME}}]] per modificare questo testo!</td>
<td style="text-align: right">[ <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Template:{{PAGENAME}}|action=purge}} pulire la cache]</span> ] <span class="nomobile"> [ <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Template:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} modifica]</span> ] [ <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Template:{{PAGENAME}}|action=history}} cronologia]</span> ]</span><td>|
<th colspan=2 class="big-text error">Errore: La documentazione di questo template non è stata ancora creata. Puoi crearlo [[Documentazione template:{{PAGENAME}}|qui]].</th>}}
</table>

So, I think it's better to write the table syntax in HTML rather than in wikicode. --Infernape4All._discussioni 10:13, 1 gen 2020 (CET)

Creating a new namespace is too onerous with all the other work we have to do, and many templates already have documentation in their own page: example, another example. -- Lucas992  •  Hai bisogno?   O vuoi stalkerarmi?  22:19, 1 gen 2020 (CET)

You're right, but if we would want to have a separate namespace for template documentations, it should not be protected, but single documentation pages may be protected if they are prone to vandalism. Yes, adding new namespaces is a server-side problem. --Infernape4All._discussioni 09:43, 2 gen 2020 (CET)

I don't think we need a separate namespace for template documentation, they're fine in the page of the template. The only advantage I can see in doing it is that we can protect the template leaving the documentation unprotected, but given the number of users that know how to write a documentation I think the effort is by far not worth it. In case someone wants to edit a documentation it can do it in a sandbox, then ask an administrator to update the page --Ff300 (discussioni) 19:26, 2 gen 2020 (CET)

So, template documentations would be free to edit, and any user can create it. The only needed thing is the "preload" for template documentations:

<no<includeonly></includeonly>include>{{Intestazione della documentazione}}</no<includeonly></includeonly>include>
Ecco la descrizione principale di template
==Uso==
<pre>
{{sintassi di utilizzo di template}}
<‍/pre‍>
descrizione dei parametri
==Esempi==
<pre>{{esempio di utilizzo}}<‍/pre‍>
Risultato:

And the template {‍{Intestazione della documentazione}‍}* will look like this:

Questa pagina è una documentazione di template {‍{[[Template:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]}‍}. Ulteriori informazioni sulla documentazione di template.

Also, there could be a category for templates with associated documentation. --Infernape4All._discussioni 13:15, 4 gen 2020 (CET)